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Mar 16, 2013 14:01:37 GMT
Post by grommit on Mar 16, 2013 14:01:37 GMT
Considering the distances imports play at home viz US or Can I find it amazing that a 40 min or 1 hr bus trip makes such an impact on our away form . Surely sometimes this is just a drive to the rink for our imports.It really is a bafflement.......Explanations?
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Mar 16, 2013 14:45:24 GMT
Post by nobabody on Mar 16, 2013 14:45:24 GMT
in one of the player interviews or maybe on the podcast, someone mentioned that travelling and playing the same day was unusual for them(North Americans), it does make sense, sitting around for 4-9 hours then expecting your body to be ready for 3 hours to play hockey, after a 20 minute warm-up is, i suspect, inadequate for optimal performance.
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Mar 16, 2013 15:40:43 GMT
Post by flyers4eva on Mar 16, 2013 15:40:43 GMT
Teams in North America either tend to fly before the day of the game, or travel the day before the game so the guys aren't contending with tired legs. They will then have pre-game skates as well. With the exception of Nottingham and Belfast, travelling before game day just isn't the norm. Saying that, even Nottingham and Belfast don't always travel the day before.
We need a whole new approach next season for away travel.
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Mar 16, 2013 15:46:05 GMT
Post by grommit on Mar 16, 2013 15:46:05 GMT
Im talking about a 40min to 1 hr trip to edin or ddee or braehead...there is not a lot of travelling time or down time before the warm up which is pretty much the same for both teams .....bottom line I wouldnt consider it a big deal for an away game to be within an hour or sos drive ....look what the taffies have to put up with..
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Mar 16, 2013 16:01:13 GMT
Post by sparkymark75 on Mar 16, 2013 16:01:13 GMT
Derek said himself after the Braehead game on Wednesday, they can't blame travel or "bus legs" as it's only an hours bus ride.
As flyersrule points out, teams in NA tend to arrive the day before a game, have a pre-game skate in the morning of the game and then rest up for the game. Over here, it's leave early doors, sit on a bus for hours (for games down south), jump of the bus, warmup and then play.
It's not ideal, but hey, any other alternative is expensive and other teams are in the same situation as us and can win away.
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Mar 16, 2013 16:25:00 GMT
Post by grommit on Mar 16, 2013 16:25:00 GMT
Derek said himself after the Braehead game on Wednesday, they can't blame travel or "bus legs" as it's only an hours bus ride. As flyersrule points out, teams in NA tend to arrive the day before a game, have a pre-game skate in the morning of the game and then rest up for the game. Over here, it's leave early doors, sit on a bus for hours (for games down south), jump of the bus, warmup and then play. It's not ideal, but hey, any other alternative is expensive and other teams are in the same situation as us and can win away. I get what you say but my point is its only at most an hours drive to the scots games ...do they need a days down time to relax and prep for the game ...wow they must be knackered sitting on a bus for an hour then prep before game ....come on...! Sorry marky missed a bit of your point ...
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Mar 16, 2013 16:38:08 GMT
Post by joestoyanovich on Mar 16, 2013 16:38:08 GMT
Considering the distances imports play at home viz US or Can I find it amazing that a 40 min or 1 hr bus trip makes such an impact on our away form . Surely sometimes this is just a drive to the rink for our imports.It really is a bafflement.......Explanations? I agree, you cant really count games at Dundee or Edinburgh as real away games because 1. they are so close and 2. There's likely to be a huge portion of the crowd Flyers supporters.
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Mar 16, 2013 16:52:09 GMT
Post by grommit on Mar 16, 2013 16:52:09 GMT
Considering the distances imports play at home viz US or Can I find it amazing that a 40 min or 1 hr bus trip makes such an impact on our away form . Surely sometimes this is just a drive to the rink for our imports.It really is a bafflement.......Explanations? I agree, you cant really count games at Dundee or Edinburgh as real away games because 1. they are so close and 2. There's likely to be a huge portion of the crowd Flyers supporters. ta joe ...you get it.
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Mar 16, 2013 17:04:30 GMT
Post by sparkymark75 on Mar 16, 2013 17:04:30 GMT
Derek said himself after the Braehead game on Wednesday, they can't blame travel or "bus legs" as it's only an hours bus ride. As flyersrule points out, teams in NA tend to arrive the day before a game, have a pre-game skate in the morning of the game and then rest up for the game. Over here, it's leave early doors, sit on a bus for hours (for games down south), jump of the bus, warmup and then play. It's not ideal, but hey, any other alternative is expensive and other teams are in the same situation as us and can win away. I get what you say but my point is its only at most an hours drive to the scots games ...do they need a days down time to relax and prep for the game ...wow they must be knackered sitting on a bus for an hour then prep before game ....come on...! Sorry marky missed a bit of your point ... No probs, my post was mostly about games down south.
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Mar 16, 2013 23:12:56 GMT
Post by joestoyanovich on Mar 16, 2013 23:12:56 GMT
I agree, you cant really count games at Dundee or Edinburgh as real away games because 1. they are so close and 2. There's likely to be a huge portion of the crowd Flyers supporters. ta joe ...you get it. I totally get it. There are away games and away games. Going to Belfast or Nottingham for instance is a real away game, your going to be playing a much stronger team in a strange venue with very little support there to cheer you on. Going to Dundee or Murrayfield, come on ! we should be doing better at places like this half an hour away
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Mar 18, 2013 9:55:05 GMT
Post by feedmemore on Mar 18, 2013 9:55:05 GMT
You play a different system when on the road. Now remembering all had surfaces apart from Edinburgh are smaller than our own home ice.its a big adjustment to make when your used to playing on the big surface to a tried and tested system
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Mar 18, 2013 15:45:52 GMT
Post by ted on Mar 18, 2013 15:45:52 GMT
the ice at Edinburgh must take some getting used to , it looks like plastic before they start and snow within a few mins of playing on it
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Mar 18, 2013 19:26:04 GMT
Post by tam on Mar 18, 2013 19:26:04 GMT
theres what we are doing wrong , we are using a bus! caps send the kit in a transit and tell the players to make their own way to the game.
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Mar 18, 2013 21:56:54 GMT
Post by ojc123 on Mar 18, 2013 21:56:54 GMT
You play a different system when on the road. Now remembering all had surfaces apart from Edinburgh are smaller than our own home ice.its a big adjustment to make when your used to playing on the big surface to a tried and tested system I've heard this ice size argument before. I was intrigued. I had a quick Google for rink sizes. This is what I came up with. I was surprised that the Hull rink is about the same size as The Ice Rink; it looks much smaller. I'm guessing it's a perception thing because of the angles you look at the ice. Hull 60m x 30m Kirkcaldy 59m x 30m Dundee 60m x 30m Braehead 60m x 30m Nottingham 60m x 30m Sheffield 60m x 30m Coventry 56m x 28m Cardiff 56m x 26m Murrayfield 60m x 30m* Belfast ? *Converted from 200' x 100' because they've not caught up with the rest of the world over there. So, only two rinks are smaller than ours. Just sharing my passing interest. Info mainly from here. www.iceskating.org.uk/category/rinks-clubs. Edit to add. I'm sure Ice quality will make a huge difference even if ice size isn't so different.
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Mar 19, 2013 10:21:15 GMT
Post by joestoyanovich on Mar 19, 2013 10:21:15 GMT
I'm not sure these rink sizes are correct, we always assume that the big ice st kirkcaldy is an advantage for us. The figures above suggest that all the rinks are more or less the same ? Dundees is never the same as ours surely its much smaller.
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