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Post by redtussell44 on Aug 16, 2015 12:38:31 GMT
This is a public forum encouraged by people to give their opinion on the flyers.. FACT EVERY team minus the flyers has at least one enforcer.. FACT It will take a month before Todd realises he's made a mistake.. FACT There will be fans that won't go to the flyers now.. FACT I am one of them.. FACT Will go to Braehead/Edinburgh/Dundee instead.. FACT Will ask for a picture with Cam Janssen.. FACT Nicker is almost irreplaceable.. FACT He's glad he's playing for a professional team now.. FACT Todd wants to go back to the BNL days.. FACT The league has changed a lot since then.. FACT Flyers will get bullied every week.. FACT Our goalie will be the biggest target.. FACT Flyers will be plagued by injuries this year.. FACT Tommy Muir will get injured in a fight against someone a lot bigger than him.. FACT Shall I keep going?? With the utmost respect..most of your statements are predictions and opinion not facts...now I dont mind listening to opinion if it is based upon a good knowledge and experience. Im assuming that although 75% (guess) of posters to this forum think theyre 'World Sports coach of the millenium' the truth is far removed from that. Yet still it is for many 'keyboard coaches' okay to rip apart our coaches and mgt before the new zambonis been fired up. You're right mate, I do have a good knowledge from hockey. And I've plenty experience playing hockey too. Youll see from any of my posts that I don't claim to be a 'keyboard coach'. I'm giving my opinion. But my lists of facts has a good chance of coming to fruition. If you have a good knowledge of hockey, then you know exactly where I'm coming from.
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Post by jambitink on Aug 16, 2015 12:39:08 GMT
This is a public forum encouraged by people to give their opinion on the flyers.. FACT EVERY team minus the flyers has at least one enforcer.. FACT It will take a month before Todd realises he's made a mistake.. FACT There will be fans that won't go to the flyers now.. FACT I am one of them.. FACT Will go to Braehead/Edinburgh/Dundee instead.. FACT Will ask for a picture with Cam Janssen.. FACT Nicker is almost irreplaceable.. FACT He's glad he's playing for a professional team now.. FACT Todd wants to go back to the BNL days.. FACT The league has changed a lot since then.. FACT Flyers will get bullied every week.. FACT Our goalie will be the biggest target.. FACT Flyers will be plagued by injuries this year.. FACT Tommy Muir will get injured in a fight against someone a lot bigger than him.. FACT Shall I keep going?? With the utmost respect..most of your statements are predictions and opinion not facts...now I dont mind listening to opinion if it is based upon a good knowledge and experience. Im assuming that although 75% (guess) of posters to this forum think theyre 'World Sports coach of the millenium' the truth is far removed from that. Yet still it is for many 'keyboard coaches' okay to rip apart our coaches and mgt before the new zambonis been fired up. I'll tell you what is a fact. Last year when the team were playing terrible and were boring to watch. Nickerson still gave me a reason to attend games. Same thing happens this year and the team under performs, what will attract casual fans through the door?
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Post by amazepux on Aug 16, 2015 13:10:37 GMT
Maybe it will be boring..maybe we will get bullied..maybe folk will stop coming..maybe then mgt will get an enforcer..maybe none of that will happen..why cant folk wait in anticipation instead of (for some) reverting to the 'attack coaches/mgt' default position before puck is dropped. I just dont see why they bother? Spend your money on something you enjoy rather than trying to drag others down. Its actually embarrassing and incomprehensible to me that folk would spend their hard earned money on watching something that obviously causes them so much apparent grief....its a sport
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finchy
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
NHL Team: New Jersey Devil
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Post by finchy on Aug 16, 2015 14:00:09 GMT
I'm twisting words? Are you on the wind up? I'll make it easy for you; Drwho's exact words were; 'Jambi' said; Can you honestly not see the difference in what was actually said? The stuff about Clarkson etc., I can't believe anyone would suggest that Tommy should be getting involved with guys like that just for the sake of it. Tommy doesnt think he's 'an enforcer' and just because a few fans rate him as a decent middleweight (which he is) doesnt meant to say he's obliged to 'fight more'. Jeez- apart from anything else, would you be doing that on a Flyers Brit's wages? There's a couple of digs at Tommy on this thread about not being prepared to go with heavyweights like Nickerson. It's ridiculous. Your post is ridiculous. It's obvious I was referring to the other post which said 'toughest around, outside of heavyweights'. I'm not stupid enough to compare him to a heavy weight. And I'll stick by my opinion that Without heavy weights, Tommy isn't one of the toughest around. In no way is that a dig towards Tommy. It's my opinion whether it's right or wrong and I doubt he would ever waste his time reading this. I've already said and quoted that you responded to someone saying he's ONE OF the toughest guys OUTSIDE THE HEAVYWEIGHTS by arguing 'if he was the toughest guy around....'. That is twisting words and I'm not arguing about it a 3rd time.
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Aug 16, 2015 14:34:52 GMT
It's less than half empty tamson, there's a dribble in the bottom Season hasnt started yet...FACT The mgt team have made a decision not to employ an an enforcer role player...FACT The fans opinions on the preference for an enforcer isnt as clear cut as first thought..FACT Gum Bumping before a pucks dropped wont benefit the team..FACT It is possible to complain without spending any money..dont go..FACT If people are so peeved that we dont have an enforcer then why dont they all boycott games until mgt realise that theyre losing revenue then theyll get one in. Nobody knows how the season will pan out and until a month or so in..until then why dont folk learn to 'button thy yaps!' IMO Everyone is allowed an opinion - FACT Those that think there's is the only one that matters just look arrogant and silly - FACT And by posting that post it makes you look like one of these people - FACT
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Post by bleubrazil on Aug 16, 2015 15:16:26 GMT
With the utmost respect..most of your statements are predictions and opinion not facts...now I dont mind listening to opinion if it is based upon aknowledge and experience. Im assuming that although 75% (guess) of posters to this forum think theyre 'World Sports coach of the millenium' the truth is far removed from that. Yet still it is for many 'keyboard coaches' okay to rip apart our coaches and mgt before the new zambonis been fired upd I'll tell you what is a fact. Last year when the team were playing terrible and were boring to watch. Nickerson still gave me a reason to attend games. Same thing happens this year and the team under performs, what will attract casual fans through the door? ure the I am not ashamed to admit I am a happy clapper and have never criticised anyone in a Flyers jersey in my life. However I am surprised the owners have not instructed the management team to include an enforcer of their choice in the squad. Many fans hero worshipped big Matt as he ended a long spell when we were beaten up. Now we have the makings of a good team but they have no chance of success without someone to protect them.
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icysmith
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
NHL Team: New York Rangers
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Post by icysmith on Aug 16, 2015 16:22:48 GMT
Season hasnt started yet...FACT The mgt team have made a decision not to employ an an enforcer role player...FACT The fans opinions on the preference for an enforcer isnt as clear cut as first thought..FACT Gum Bumping before a pucks dropped wont benefit the team..FACT It is possible to complain without spending any money..dont go..FACT If people are so peeved that we dont have an enforcer then why dont they all boycott games until mgt realise that theyre losing revenue then theyll get one in. Nobody knows how the season will pan out and until a month or so in..until then why dont folk learn to 'button thy yaps!' IMO This is a public forum encouraged by people to give their opinion on the flyers.. FACT EVERY team minus the flyers has at least one enforcer.. FACT It will take a month before Todd realises he's made a mistake.. FACT There will be fans that won't go to the flyers now.. FACT I am one of them.. FACT Will go to Braehead/Edinburgh/Dundee instead.. FACT Will ask for a picture with Cam Janssen.. FACT Nicker is almost irreplaceable.. FACT He's glad he's playing for a professional team now.. FACT Todd wants to go back to the BNL days.. FACT The league has changed a lot since then.. FACT Flyers will get bullied every week.. FACT Our goalie will be the biggest target.. FACT Flyers will be plagued by injuries this year.. FACT Tommy Muir will get injured in a fight against someone a lot bigger than him.. FACT Shall I keep going??Aye............all the way along the M8 until you come to Renfrew where you will be much happier. You are never a Flyers fan in yer puff
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Post by graz94 on Aug 16, 2015 17:32:44 GMT
Get the padlock out, this thread has taken a turn for the worse like many others!
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
Just because someone puts the word fact at the end of a sentence, doesnt make an opinion a fact!
This Flyers team of imports is the best bunch of imports on paper i have seen in my time! There is definately some grit and toughness there.
Funnily enough have a look back at which team finished with the most points in our EIHL history, no enforcer to be seen and 3 less imports!
People will say, yes but look at the other teams enforcers, lets just see when they hit the ice. You never know, it may just be a fun season without one. You cant predict half of the stuff that is on here without seeing a team play!
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Post by waterboy on Aug 16, 2015 18:10:43 GMT
I assume you mean Flyers time in the EIHL. If thats right our best season both in points and in getting to the playoff weekend was in 2013/14.
We had the biggest enforcer in the league.
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Post by tackleberry on Aug 16, 2015 18:33:04 GMT
Get the padlock out, this thread has taken a turn for the worse like many others! The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Just because someone puts the word fact at the end of a sentence, doesnt make an opinion a fact! This Flyers team of imports is the best bunch of imports on paper i have seen in my time! There is definately some grit and toughness there. Funnily enough have a look back at which team finished with the most points in our EIHL history, no enforcer to be seen and 3 less imports! People will say, yes but look at the other teams enforcers, lets just see when they hit the ice. You never know, it may just be a fun season without one. You cant predict half of the stuff that is on here without seeing a team play! For some of us, part of the attraction of ice hockey is seeing a bit of fisty cuffs, of course it is more entertaining when your team has someone who will step up to the plate and go toe to toe with anyone in the league. I really do hope that the new squad gels quickly and as long as they have a good work ethic and conduct themselves in the right manner off the ice they will receive my full backing win or lose, but I have to say I am a little disappointed that there will be no enforcer to add some entertainment value this season.
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Post by graz94 on Aug 16, 2015 19:05:59 GMT
Have you seen the clips of Cullen, Lee, Delahey, Pacquette etc.. They may not be out and out fighters/enforcers, but they aint afraid to get stuck in!
Albeit youtube clips, it looks like we are in for a team of guys that wont take any c***.
In any case I'd rather see two forward lines that look like they can threaten the oppositions goal, rather than the oppositions "tough guy", you can't win a game from the box.
I appreciate that there is room for a tough guy in a team, but I go to hockey to see goals, hits, and fast flowing play, not goons. Each to their own as they say, but I have a feeling this team will surprise a few, and be no mugs!
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Post by graz94 on Aug 16, 2015 19:22:54 GMT
I assume you mean Flyers time in the EIHL. If thats right our best season both in points and in getting to the playoff weekend was in 2013/14. We had the biggest enforcer in the league. Ooops, Got the same points in the conf without him though... How many games did he miss that season? How many more points could we have had with an import that was in the line up? Anyway, Lets see who this last Dman is, he's not an enforcer, so I'm intrigued. I'll quite happily come back on here and eat humble pie if half our team is injured because of the other teams enforcers knocking lumps out us!
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Post by redtussell44 on Aug 16, 2015 20:11:17 GMT
This is a public forum encouraged by people to give their opinion on the flyers.. FACT EVERY team minus the flyers has at least one enforcer.. FACT It will take a month before Todd realises he's made a mistake.. FACT There will be fans that won't go to the flyers now.. FACT I am one of them.. FACT Will go to Braehead/Edinburgh/Dundee instead.. FACT Will ask for a picture with Cam Janssen.. FACT Nicker is almost irreplaceable.. FACT He's glad he's playing for a professional team now.. FACT Todd wants to go back to the BNL days.. FACT The league has changed a lot since then.. FACT Flyers will get bullied every week.. FACT Our goalie will be the biggest target.. FACT Flyers will be plagued by injuries this year.. FACT Tommy Muir will get injured in a fight against someone a lot bigger than him.. FACT Shall I keep going??Aye............all the way along the M8 until you come to Renfrew where you will be much happier. You are never a Flyers fan in yer puff Hahaha! I am a flyers fan, have been for 20 years. I am also a customer. If I think there will be a better game on elsewhere in Scotland, I'll spend my hard earned cash and go to that instead. Would rather watch an entertaining game of hockey rather than watch the team I support getting thrown around the ice.
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Post by amazepux on Aug 16, 2015 22:58:17 GMT
We wont get 'thrown around the ice'..our team is tough..just see what happens before judging.
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Post by scoles1 on Aug 17, 2015 4:54:20 GMT
There's a lot of facts in here maybe we should create a "facts" thread.
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