flyersforlife01
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EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
NHL Team: Pittsburgh Penguins
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Post by flyersforlife01 on Feb 20, 2017 10:38:25 GMT
I don't see why people are blaming Tam and the ownership, Todd has been backed by them but it's him that signs the players. He has got the wrong mix and his systems are totally wrong for our league. I can understand why they play a dump and chase hockey in the states/Canada as they have smaller ice pads but it just doesn't work over here. If we had a big physical player on each line that wanted to go into the dirty areas then maybe that would help but we don't so you are basically giving the puck straight to the opposition. There is good players in our lineup but Todd has made a major cockup by not signing players with a physical presence.
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Post by daviejojo on Feb 20, 2017 10:40:35 GMT
I think the problem with the ownership is they restrict who he can sign. Don't get me wrong, Todd is clearly very much in the blame area, but, Todd clearly would like to sign a full time Brit or 2, but from reading between the lines, it sounds like its the owners who say no. Really, Todd should simply be given a total budget, and it's up to him who he signs. For me, definitely shared blame.
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Post by waterboy on Feb 20, 2017 11:52:31 GMT
If you look at Shane Owens stats taking in the first 33 league games he was at 0.923 SV%
Then look at the last 10 games he has dropped to 0.860 SV%. Including 2 games where he has posted up 0.759 and 0.742 Storm and Clan losses away from home recently. Now before anyone jumps up and down on my head I am not pointing any blame for recent losses at Shane the kid has been outstanding for us. But it does show and folk have said his game at the weekend has dropped from the level we have all got used to seeing.
Is this simply down to him being overworked? last year in the ECHL he played 47 games but that was over a full season (For 2 teams). He has played 51 so far with 5 weeks minimum remaining. He has already faced 500 more shots this season.
We need to give the guy a break both physically and mentally. Get this weekend out the way then give him at least 3 games off and give Craig Douglas some icetime.
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Post by daviejojo on Feb 20, 2017 12:18:13 GMT
Said this weeks ago, the guy is a superb tendy, but, we have overworked him, and he's clearly struggling with either mental or physical fatigue. The Sheffield game away was a classic, he shipped 3 goals in 3 minutes, we were clearly gone in the game, why not pull him and play Craig. Even Clan now are starting to play Russell, the other teams around the league are playing their Number 2 in some games, they have too.
Its just poor management of the situation. You take Shane aside, tell him in no uncertain terms how critical he is to Fife Flyers, but, he is being rested for a weekend. Take some down time, get the body back in shape, and be ready for the play off push. If we can't rely on Craig, why have him on the bench, and the kid has basically hardly touched the ice, even Daly used to get the odd game.
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Post by swarfiga on Feb 20, 2017 12:37:21 GMT
I think he's probably just fed up off what's going on in front of him
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Post by coloradoflyer on Feb 20, 2017 12:40:17 GMT
well all you have to do is look to the west rusty can't be nay better or worse than dougz and yet clan have the confidence to stick him in the nets and according to elite prospects he has played 17 games this year dougz has had 1 and got 2 last year that just tells you the coach has no faith in him
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Post by daviejojo on Feb 20, 2017 12:43:47 GMT
Exactly. Ice Hockey has moved on in so many ways in this country, and you can certainly argue, despite it's failings, that it is the most professional it has been. I suspect, the next "big" change will be net-minders. We saw in days of old, all British goalies, then as import numbers increased, clubs opted for this route, next, I suspect we'll see a move to clubs having to move to a more NHL style, and actually run with 2 effective starting goalies, and they will need to give guys some down time. I doubt in the NHL, you'd see a goalie play in 3 games on 3 consecutive nights, it's a different ball game to players, it's a punishing, and demanding job.
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Post by waterboy on Feb 20, 2017 13:34:55 GMT
The league is too good to run a no 1 guy for the entire season these days, Murdy Russell Pacl Whistle have all played games this year giving their teams no 1 the chance to rest.
Craig Douglas has had 5m 54secs icetime which came at the end of a 9-3 win over the caps.
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flyersforlife01
Junior
Posts: 540
EIHL Team: Fife Flyers
NHL Team: Pittsburgh Penguins
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Post by flyersforlife01 on Feb 20, 2017 14:10:34 GMT
Some of these teams play the British goaltender so they can play 14 outfield players.
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Post by daviejojo on Feb 20, 2017 14:38:39 GMT
Yup. Bowns was the real find of this generation, funnily enough he was recommended to the club, but they chose to ignore the advice
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Post by Marky on Feb 20, 2017 18:14:17 GMT
Look at the casey haines season, we played amazing hockey on home ice and we didnt have the enforcer. Jason Pitton was an enforcer, he had fought some of the toughest around in the AHL before coming to play here. Hamish McAlpine Tommy Muir Jeff Caister to name a few all gave us proper team toughness. Hamish was a big loss for us that season. We have never replaced him. Probably didn't realise it enough at the time but that is a team I would love to watch play again. The played good physical hockey fought if required and stood up as a team. Jason Pitton came here as an ex enforcer, he said himself one of the main reasons he signed here was to get away from the enforcing role and to play hockey. He only had two noticeable incidents the whole season he was here, the one up in Dundee where he blindsided a Dundee player with a sucker punch at the end of the period, plus one fight against Edinburgh.
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Post by swarfiga on Feb 20, 2017 18:24:40 GMT
I don't see why people are blaming Tam and the ownership, Todd has been backed by them but it's him that signs the players. He has got the wrong mix and his systems are totally wrong for our league. I can understand why they play a dump and chase hockey in the states/Canada as they have smaller ice pads but it just doesn't work over here. If we had a big physical player on each line that wanted to go into the dirty areas then maybe that would help but we don't so you are basically giving the puck straight to the opposition. There is good players in our lineup but Todd has made a major cockup by not signing players with a physical presence. Aye but he was a presence, he obviously had a reputation amongst other players, when he was out injured or suspended Haines had to put up with hell, not so much when Pitton was next to him though. That's what we need, I'm not saying we need a Brian Mcgrattan but a couple of Pittons in the line up makes a real difference.
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Post by swarfiga on Feb 20, 2017 18:25:04 GMT
Saying that you'd take McGrattan over half our trash forwards
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Post by johndabomb on Feb 20, 2017 21:47:46 GMT
Pitton is THE player we need. A player who could put up a point a game and whom other teams tough guys would be seriously hesitant to take on. Someone of that ilk would transform this team and is a must for next season along with a towering unit of a stay at home d-man.
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Post by joestoyanovich on Feb 20, 2017 22:32:17 GMT
Overall I was a bit disappointed with Jason Pitton, when he was in the mood he was excellent but he had a lot of quiet nights. Having said that I would take him back in a second.
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