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[ronniemac]

I like Thinel for a number of reasons, he breaks up a lot of opposition plays, steals the puck a good few times in every game, he does back check, great vision and passes the puck among the best in the league and has miles more points than Rosehill (different role plays anyway) BUT I think a lot of people see his lack of speed equate to being a poor player and he is far from being that.

[superpatsy]

I'd take Thinel over Rosehill any day of the week. Rosehill brings absolutely nothing productive to a team.

I'd have someone like Faryna in a Flyers jersey in a heartbeat.

[waterboy]

This wasn't a debate on Thinel over Rosehill, i just used those as an example of what we are missing from our line up and what we have in abundance. Look at it like this then Issacs or Rosehill. My point was if we had that real physical player it would have made a difference IMO to how this season has went.

As for the comment on Rosehill bringing nothing to a team that's just laughable. The guy is one of the best skaters in the league, hits like a train and can fight anyone. Has played forward and defence and was credited with being the clans best defenceman when he was back there (if I remember the purple army podcast guys right). If you don't see what he brings maybe you should take the flyers tinted glasses off and watch his game a bit more.

[nm1]

Rosehill, Faryna or Cescon, would take any of those 3 to add a bit of balance to the team.

[superpatsy]

Mar 29, 2017 11:57:00 GMT waterboy said:

This wasn't a debate on Thinel over Rosehill, i just used those as an example of what we are missing from our line up and what we have in abundance. Look at it like this then Issacs or Rosehill. My point was if we had that real physical player it would have made a difference IMO to how this season has went.

As for the comment on Rosehill bringing nothing to a team that's just laughable. The guy is one of the best skaters in the league, hits like a train and can fight anyone. Has played forward and defence and was credited with being the clans best defenceman when he was back there (if I remember the purple army podcast guys right). If you don't see what he brings maybe you should take the flyers tinted glasses off and watch his game a bit more.

Isaacs and Rosehill is another poor comparison. Isaacs is a D-man and Rosehill is a forward. The amount of stupid penalties that Rosehill takes is ridiculous. Hits like a train and gets called for charging often (stupid penalty). Great skater yes, no denying that but his passing and point production is well below average for an ex-NHL forward. The same goes for McGrattan before anyone mentions him. Personally, I wouldn't have him at all in any scenario.

As for the Flyer-tinted glasses, that comment is laughable. I'd much rather have a power forward who can put up numbers, such as Faryna who isn't well liked among Flyers fans from what I've noticed, and can fight instead of someone who is basically a goon with poor production. God forbid anyone should have a differing opinion...

[coloradoflyer]

i think I would have liked to have had scarcella instead of thinel, but defo missed not having a guy or 2 who could stand up to the bully boys of the league

[tackleberry]

Mar 29, 2017 11:57:00 GMT waterboy said:

This wasn't a debate on Thinel over Rosehill, i just used those as an example of what we are missing from our line up and what we have in abundance. Look at it like this then Issacs or Rosehill. My point was if we had that real physical player it would have made a difference IMO to how this season has went.

As for the comment on Rosehill bringing nothing to a team that's just laughable. The guy is one of the best skaters in the league, hits like a train and can fight anyone. Has played forward and defence and was credited with being the clans best defenceman when he was back there (if I remember the purple army podcast guys right). If you don't see what he brings maybe you should take the flyers tinted glasses off and watch his game a bit more.

Totally agree, Rosehill will be very popular with his linemates, a real team player who is happy for others to express themselves and put up the numbers whilst he does the gritty stuff.

[waterboy]

Mar 29, 2017 12:49:15 GMT superpatsy said:

Mar 29, 2017 11:57:00 GMT waterboy said:

This wasn't a debate on Thinel over Rosehill, i just used those as an example of what we are missing from our line up and what we have in abundance. Look at it like this then Issacs or Rosehill. My point was if we had that real physical player it would have made a difference IMO to how this season has went.

As for the comment on Rosehill bringing nothing to a team that's just laughable. The guy is one of the best skaters in the league, hits like a train and can fight anyone. Has played forward and defence and was credited with being the clans best defenceman when he was back there (if I remember the purple army podcast guys right). If you don't see what he brings maybe you should take the flyers tinted glasses off and watch his game a bit more.

Isaacs and Rosehill is another poor comparison. Isaacs is a D-man and Rosehill is a forward. The amount of stupid penalties that Rosehill takes is ridiculous. Hits like a train and gets called for charging often (stupid penalty). Great skater yes, no denying that but his passing and point production is well below average for an ex-NHL forward. The same goes for McGrattan before anyone mentions him. Personally, I wouldn't have him at all in any scenario.

As for the Flyer-tinted glasses, that comment is laughable. I'd much rather have a power forward who can put up numbers, such as Faryna who isn't well liked among Flyers fans from what I've noticed, and can fight instead of someone who is basically a goon with poor production. God forbid anyone should have a differing opinion...

Your opinion was this

Rosehill brings absolutely nothing productive to a team

I have a different opinion, god forbid eh.

He has had 4 2min penalties for charging 3 off them against us. Hardly a major issue. He is a better defenceman than Issacs is a forward again IMO you don't have to agree thats the point of forums really.

Rosehill 4 + 18
Issacs 1 + 4

He has fought 4 times this season 2 in the same game against McGrattan. Not exactly a Goon. Cowick on the other hand that's a Goon.

85 off his 140mins came from 4 incidents, he was called for checking to the head (2+10) once. So have Fox and Paquet. He is again in my opinion the exact type of guy we are missing and a player I would love to see in a flyers top next season.

Edit: Just because a player has played in the NHL doesn't mean he will put up 50 goals and 100 points in the EIHL. You do get that players in this league are role players just like they would be in any other league.

[swarfiga]

"Id take thinel over rosehill" NO!!!! Rosehill is exactly the type this team needed, fans looking at individual players again here as opposed to what the team needs, basically what Todd does when recruiting.

[superpatsy]

Mar 29, 2017 13:43:30 GMT waterboy said:

Mar 29, 2017 12:49:15 GMT superpatsy said:

Isaacs and Rosehill is another poor comparison. Isaacs is a D-man and Rosehill is a forward. The amount of stupid penalties that Rosehill takes is ridiculous. Hits like a train and gets called for charging often (stupid penalty). Great skater yes, no denying that but his passing and point production is well below average for an ex-NHL forward. The same goes for McGrattan before anyone mentions him. Personally, I wouldn't have him at all in any scenario.

As for the Flyer-tinted glasses, that comment is laughable. I'd much rather have a power forward who can put up numbers, such as Faryna who isn't well liked among Flyers fans from what I've noticed, and can fight instead of someone who is basically a goon with poor production. God forbid anyone should have a differing opinion...

Your opinion was this

Rosehill brings absolutely nothing productive to a team

I have a different opinion, god forbid eh.

He has had 4 2min penalties for charging 3 off them against us. Hardly a major issue. He is a better defenceman than Issacs is a forward again IMO you don't have to agree thats the point of forums really.

Rosehill 4 + 18
Issacs 1 + 4

He has fought 4 times this season 2 in the same game against McGrattan. Not exactly a Goon. Cowick on the other hand that's a Goon.

85 off his 140mins came from 4 incidents, he was called for checking to the head (2+10) once. So have Fox and Paquet. He is again in my opinion the exact type of guy we are missing and a player I would love to see in a flyers top next season.

Edit: Just because a player has played in the NHL doesn't mean he will put up 50 goals and 100 points in the EIHL. You do get that players in this league are role players just like they would be in any other league.

But as soon as I have a differing opinion, I've got my Flyers tinted glasses on? Nor do I have the time to look up the PIM's of players and what every individual penalty was. Yes Phil has been caught for checks to the head but none of them severe enough to be reviewed by DOPS. Hell, one against Braehead and he was nowhere near the guy's head!




There's no denying that the Flyers need a tougher team, all I'm saying is that a guy like Rosehill isn't the answer in my opinion, even though that doesn't matter and I'm still wrong. 

[rimbleton]

Rosehill has been superb for us, he knows how to play the enforcer role, not many have fancied taking him on this season and has put up more points than I thought he would, would be my first pick for next year, and considering we have 3 out of top 4 points scorers, says a lot

[waterboy]

Mar 29, 2017 15:16:51 GMT superpatsy said:

Mar 29, 2017 13:43:30 GMT waterboy said:

Your opinion was this I have a different opinion, god forbid eh.

He has had 4 2min penalties for charging 3 off them against us. Hardly a major issue. He is a better defenceman than Issacs is a forward again IMO you don't have to agree thats the point of forums really.

Rosehill 4 + 18
Issacs 1 + 4

He has fought 4 times this season 2 in the same game against McGrattan. Not exactly a Goon. Cowick on the other hand that's a Goon.

85 off his 140mins came from 4 incidents, he was called for checking to the head (2+10) once. So have Fox and Paquet. He is again in my opinion the exact type of guy we are missing and a player I would love to see in a flyers top next season.

Edit: Just because a player has played in the NHL doesn't mean he will put up 50 goals and 100 points in the EIHL. You do get that players in this league are role players just like they would be in any other league.

But as soon as I have a differing opinion, I've got my Flyers tinted glasses on? Nor do I have the time to look up the PIM's of players and what every individual penalty was. Yes Phil has been caught for checks to the head but none of them severe enough to be reviewed by DOPS. Hell, one against Braehead and he was nowhere near the guy's head!




There's no denying that the Flyers need a tougher team, all I'm saying is that a guy like Rosehill isn't the answer in my opinion, even though that doesn't matter and I'm still wrong. 

Eh every penalty for checking to the head gets reviewed by DOPS but lets not let facts get in the way.

Your quick to point out the guy has had been "called for charging often (stupid Penalty)" but when that shown to be wrong its oh I dont have time to make accurate statements. Did you go to Trump University by chance?

I didn't say having a different opinion meant you had Flyers tinted glasses on. You referred to Rosehill as "bringing nothing productive to a team" to which my response was maybe you should take off the Flyers tinted glasses and watch what he does on the ice.

[superpatsy]

Mar 29, 2017 15:57:25 GMT waterboy said:

Mar 29, 2017 15:16:51 GMT superpatsy said:

But as soon as I have a differing opinion, I've got my Flyers tinted glasses on? Nor do I have the time to look up the PIM's of players and what every individual penalty was. Yes Phil has been caught for checks to the head but none of them severe enough to be reviewed by DOPS. Hell, one against Braehead and he was nowhere near the guy's head!




There's no denying that the Flyers need a tougher team, all I'm saying is that a guy like Rosehill isn't the answer in my opinion, even though that doesn't matter and I'm still wrong. 

Eh every penalty for checking to the head gets reviewed by DOPS but lets not let facts get in the way.

Your quick to point out the guy has had been "called for charging often (stupid Penalty)" but when that shown to be wrong its oh I dont have time to make accurate statements. Did you go to Trump University by chance?

I didn't say having a different opinion meant you had Flyers tinted glasses on. You referred to Rosehill as "bringing nothing productive to a team" to which my response was maybe you should take off the Flyers tinted glasses and watch what he does on the ice.

Grow up, mate. Anyone can act the smart **** behind a forum.

I've rarely seen a charging call until Rosehill came along and three came against us. I have watched him on the ice and I didn't like what I seen. Simple.

[waterboy]

Mar 29, 2017 16:03:57 GMT superpatsy said:

Grow up, mate. Anyone can act the smart **** behind a forum.

I accept your surrender with grace and humility.

Good day kind sir.

[superpatsy]

Mar 29, 2017 16:28:12 GMT waterboy said:

Mar 29, 2017 16:03:57 GMT superpatsy said:

Grow up, mate. Anyone can act the smart **** behind a forum.

I accept your surrender with grace and humility.

Good day kind sir.

Going to any of the games at the weekend? I'd be happy to discuss them there with you.