Marky
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Post by Marky on Sept 27, 2021 13:38:07 GMT
I've read and heard numerous old imports say that Dutes is a good coach.
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Post by flyfifer on Sept 27, 2021 13:48:16 GMT
Must be Todd brother.
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Post by flyer007 on Sept 27, 2021 16:28:16 GMT
Seriously though does anyone think Andrew Lord, Mark Morrison, Paul Thomson, Paul Adey etc gets any more out of these players? I personally don’t. Our problems are greater than just the coach it’s from the top of the tree working in archaic times with a lack of structure and an acceptance of mediocrity.
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Post by stewartgibson on Sept 27, 2021 17:30:53 GMT
I will give some praise, Shane Owen absolutely terrific and Blumenschein looks like he could be an absolute gem but will take time to adjust to the pro game. I seen flashes from Stadnyk but not enough, maybe suffocated on a line with McKenzie and Benson. McNicholas and Chase do look very comfortable at this level, pretty happy with them.
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Post by teamshaky on Sept 27, 2021 18:27:29 GMT
I will give some praise, Shane Owen absolutely terrific and Blumenschein looks like he could be an absolute gem but will take time to adjust to the pro game. I seen flashes from Stadnyk but not enough, maybe suffocated on a line with McKenzie and Benson. McNicholas and Chase do look very comfortable at this level, pretty happy with them. Yes agree there is potential with the guys you mention, I also thought Lescovs was decent, seems an intelligent player, Emmerdahl was ok, but apart from that I thought the rest of the imports were well below the standard required for EIHL. Need to bring another 2 in and replace 2 at a minimum to give ourself any chance of a play off spot. What was really concerning was how boring we were to watch, no characters or leaders, no hitters, no physicality, no fight, the rink was like a library by the third.
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Post by tackleberry on Sept 27, 2021 20:12:01 GMT
Here was me thinking the Challenge Cup was to be treated like pre season games, get guys up to speed etc, etc, I’m sure Todd said as much…….which begs the question, why was Scott Jamieson sitting on the bench all night? An absolute joke and one of the main reasons why Todd has lost the support of many fans, myself included.
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Post by tommy on Sept 27, 2021 23:56:15 GMT
Time to get off todd,s back. good coach, bad coach, i dont know... he is the whipping boy for Tam. no point moaning on here, let your displeasure be heard in the rink.
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Post by joestoyanovich on Sept 28, 2021 10:04:55 GMT
Highlights up
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Post by coloradoflyer01 on Sept 28, 2021 10:57:13 GMT
Poor defending for some of the goals, but why did no one plant boucher in to the boards on his 2nd goal
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Post by waterboy on Sept 28, 2021 11:12:15 GMT
Poor defending for some of the goals, but why did no one plant boucher in to the boards on his 2nd goal Stop the highlights at 1:00 it’s just lazy neutral zone defending, 4 guys all on one side. One with a lazy stick swing as opposed to pressing the puck properly. Boucher who clearly is a hell of a player then has a full lane to wind up and attack Issacs who is backing up a bit too far to adjust for Bouchers speed but plays him well to force him to push wide only for a hell of a shot to beat Shane. That’s a play that should have been stopped easily in the neutral zone. That’s not on the coaches that’s on the forwards our first line at that. If I’m Issacs I’m ****ed watching that unfold. Highlights ain’t the best 2 clips from the first one being the goal but no saves from Shane?
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Post by waterboy on Sept 28, 2021 11:20:10 GMT
Poor defending for some of the goals, but why did no one plant boucher in to the boards on his 2nd goal Whoever the d man was needs bag skates for a week. No challenge at all. Oh for a Kyle Horne hip check at that moment.
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Post by coloradoflyer01 on Sept 28, 2021 11:29:42 GMT
Poor defending for some of the goals, but why did no one plant boucher in to the boards on his 2nd goal Whoever the d man was needs bag skates for a week. No challenge at all. Oh for a Kyle Horne hip check at that moment. One thing is for sure mate if that was one of ours going down the wing he wouldn't have got past there blue line without being nailed
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Post by rossco on Sept 28, 2021 15:03:07 GMT
Anyone think that the Giants defending of our goal was a thing of beauty ? Just saying since there appears to be a deep dive on things. The 3rd goal the gap control from Emmerdahl was poor, the guy had flown the zone hoping to get the dirty big clearance off the glass, he should have stepped over and at least not let him get set for a shot. PPG one for Giants I can live with, they were patient, PPG 2 was a shambles after we got running around following having won the face off in our end - never a great combination The 5th - that was Naslund who has disappointed with his skating ability so far. Why the highlights didn't show the 3 chances we had in the opening 5 minutes of the 2nd period is beyond me - the highlights of our nights work apart from the goal That said sometimes with highlights thought it's about what they don't show
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Post by waterboy on Sept 28, 2021 15:33:17 GMT
Anyone think that the Giants defending of our goal was a thing of beauty ? Just saying since there appears to be a deep dive on things. The 3rd goal the gap control from Emmerdahl was poor, the guy had flown the zone hoping to get the dirty big clearance off the glass, he should have stepped over and at least not let him get set for a shot. PPG one for Giants I can live with, they were patient, PPG 2 was a shambles after we got running around following having won the face off in our end - never a great combination The 5th - that was Naslund who has disappointed with his skating ability so far. Why the highlights didn't show the 3 chances we had in the opening 5 minutes of the 2nd period is beyond me - the highlights of our nights work apart from the goal That said sometimes with highlights thought it's about what they don't show 3rd for me started with the poor choice to pinch at the point (might have been Lescovs but not sure) when we didnt have any cover as both wingers dived in deep at the faceoff, least said about the faceoff attempt the better. Emmerdahl played it as a 2 on 1 and stopped the pass. Hell of a shot to score mind you. Naslund for the 5th goal, watch his crossover just as Boucher looks to accelerate he goes to the wrong side and gives up all the room boucher needs he is also gliding rather than skating for most of the play. Our PK - seen this in the first game and in Coventry the 2 forwards aint playing the same way one is playing a wide box the other a tight box it is leaving too much space on one side. Too much movement away from where they should be, Stadynk in particular losses his position a lot watch him and Giants 71 Stadynk had no idea where he was most of the time leaving the option to pinch in backpost far too easy. As Kenny Horne used to say head on a swivel.
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rossco
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Post by rossco on Sept 28, 2021 16:15:51 GMT
Anyone think that the Giants defending of our goal was a thing of beauty ? Just saying since there appears to be a deep dive on things. The 3rd goal the gap control from Emmerdahl was poor, the guy had flown the zone hoping to get the dirty big clearance off the glass, he should have stepped over and at least not let him get set for a shot. PPG one for Giants I can live with, they were patient, PPG 2 was a shambles after we got running around following having won the face off in our end - never a great combination The 5th - that was Naslund who has disappointed with his skating ability so far. Why the highlights didn't show the 3 chances we had in the opening 5 minutes of the 2nd period is beyond me - the highlights of our nights work apart from the goal That said sometimes with highlights thought it's about what they don't show 3rd for me started with the poor choice to pinch at the point (might have been Lescovs but not sure) when we didnt have any cover as both wingers dived in deep at the faceoff, least said about the faceoff attempt the better. Emmerdahl played it as a 2 on 1 and stopped the pass. Hell of a shot to score mind you. Naslund for the 5th goal, watch his crossover just as Boucher looks to accelerate he goes to the wrong side and gives up all the room boucher needs he is also gliding rather than skating for most of the play. Our PK - seen this in the first game and in Coventry the 2 forwards aint playing the same way one is playing a wide box the other a tight box it is leaving too much space on one side. Too much movement away from where they should be, Stadynk in particular losses his position a lot watch him and Giants 71 Stadynk had no idea where he was most of the time leaving the option to pinch in backpost far too easy. As Kenny Horne used to say head on a swivel. This is why we sit in the stands bud. Lescovs pinch wasn't that poor - as the guy rims it off the glass it's 4 v 4 in their end and he was trying to take away the wall - their 5th guy is at that point over the red line and Emmerdahl not close enough given where the puck is - yeah give the guy all that free skating and he's likely going to be able to pick a spot - as you say nice shot. What I will say in Emmerdahls defence and it's a legit play - when you are afraid you will get burned by speed your gap increases - there are many on the team at the moment who have that mentality - kinda natural. Naslund, I guess you can defend him slightly by saying he got caught covering the wrong side but his skating whatever way you look at it so far has not been what I expected. Not sure there is anything to evidence a particular fault in the PK - Stadnyk might not be aggressive on the kill or at least on the Giants example you chose to use he preferred not to go above the tops of the circle - nothing wrong with that especially when their D are so high - where's the danger ? Similarly if we have someone that want to hound the puck when it's on his side then let him, they can't both be chasing guys on the blueline or the simply play is to the guy standing in the middle of the box and he has the best scoring chance you can give on the PP - pretty sure you know all this stuff though. What could be criticised is when Soy eventually steps in and Stadnyk doesn't step up - I think he clearly saw him he just looked gassed at that point as they had zipped the puck about. I think you'll need a body more evidence than highlights of 2 games to start making legit calls on players abilities or lack off. Let's see how it works out in coming games huh ?
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