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Post by SectionE on Dec 24, 2022 16:37:04 GMT
I am completely scunnered with the entire organisation. From the owners at the top, to the clique around the rink, to the absolute charlatans on the bench “coaching”. The whole club is rotten to the core.
If the owners don’t want to invest in the club i.e. actually better the organisation on and off the ice, then sell to someone who will, otherwise they just look like if the club does fold, as long as they own it, that’s the hill they will die on.
We now no longer have a Commercial Director either, not that the one we had was any good anyway. From personal experience, my work wanted to advertise in the programme, a rinkside board and the eave above the Fife Lounge that is currently vacant. We would also have booked at least a couple of matches in hospitality. However, we just kept getting palmed off and never got a callback, so no surprise my boss pulled his offer. Unprofessional in the extreme.
We live in a huge catchment area, and are completely invisible in the wider community. There is no effort to try and use the entire Kingdom to bring new fans in. It’s the most important part of any professional organisation to market and PR effectively. I offered to give the Dunfermline Press match reports or a weekend summary and they weren’t interested as the Flyers are still seen as a ‘Kirkcaldy’ club. An utter joke.
The coaching staff both need to go, they won’t as TD seems to be Johnny on the spot and is the easy option to keep continuing with a failing coach along just because he’s been around since the late 90s. I wouldn’t want Hutchins to be coach either as his systems are just as mind-numbingly dull.
The clique of happy-clappers also drive other fans away. The most prominent of which replied to the facebook post of the final score in Belfast with the usual birthday caird **** of “Chin up boys, we know you’re exhausted and trying your best” 🤮 That attitude is a huge part of the problem. Any criticism constructive or otherwise is hounded out of the rink.
This has come across as a tear-stained rant, but I care about the future of my team, if they fold eventually, they will all have blood on their hands. Every last one.
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Post by greyhound on Dec 25, 2022 11:09:57 GMT
The real fear is with the current owners, management, and coaches in place we may see the end of the Flyers as the crowds will dwindle below what is required. Not sure why they would want to be the ones known for this, the oldest club in UK going to the wall for the lack of trying something different or having a plan b.
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Post by boschman76 on Dec 25, 2022 11:12:40 GMT
The only way flyers fans will get change is let there voices be heard let the coaches know they aren't wanted and that they should go
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Post by joestoyanovich on Dec 25, 2022 13:21:07 GMT
The real fear is with the current owners, management, and coaches in place we may see the end of the Flyers as the crowds will dwindle below what is required. Not sure why they would want to be the ones known for this, the oldest club in UK going to the wall for the lack of trying something different or having a plan b. Crowds will already be below what is required given the enormous increase in electricity prices over the last wee while. If we needed 1000 fans at the old electricity price lord knows how many we'll need now, it'll be costing a fortune to keep the ice down. I think the Flyers going out of existence is a real possibility in the current economic climate, that would be just awful. The management need to do something to get bums back on the seats and do it quickly. A change in coaching staff would be my first step as it's clear that many folks have just had enough of them, a couple of big name signings wouldn't be a bad idea either, better PR to promote our club, the list goes on.
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Post by zamboni on Dec 25, 2022 13:45:10 GMT
The real fear is with the current owners, management, and coaches in place we may see the end of the Flyers as the crowds will dwindle below what is required. Not sure why they would want to be the ones known for this, the oldest club in UK going to the wall for the lack of trying something different or having a plan b. Crowds will already be below what is required given the enormous increase in electricity prices over the last wee while. If we needed 1000 fans at the old electricity price lord knows how many we'll need now, it'll be costing a fortune to keep the ice down. I think the Flyers going out of existence is a real possibility in the current economic climate, that would be just awful. The management need to do something to get bums back on the seats and do it quickly. A change in coaching staff would be my first step as it's clear that many folks have just had enough of them, a couple of big name signings wouldn't be a bad idea either, better PR to promote our club, the list goes on. PR has been good this season Join twitter and follow the Flyers You will get all the updates I would say things have moved forward this season Signing announcements out as soon as and action taken to replace injured players I want the best for the team, the Club also and would have liked to have seen how things had went if we had kept our original signed team However you need to balance expectation with reality As injuries have continued leading to a depleted team results have suffered crowd numbers have dropped I would rather have what we have got than nothing Between 2005 and 2011 I lost interest and really missed what we had at that time Recently the World Cup cost of living crisis cold weather snap and Christmas coinciding with poor results has lead to falling numbers I hope people will come out in numbers over the holidays and support our team Long Live Fife Flyers Merry Christmas 🎅👏👏
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Post by greyhound on Dec 25, 2022 16:35:58 GMT
The real fear is with the current owners, management, and coaches in place we may see the end of the Flyers as the crowds will dwindle below what is required. Not sure why they would want to be the ones known for this, the oldest club in UK going to the wall for the lack of trying something different or having a plan b. Crowds will already be below what is required given the enormous increase in electricity prices over the last wee while. If we needed 1000 fans at the old electricity price lord knows how many we'll need now, it'll be costing a fortune to keep the ice down. I think the Flyers going out of existence is a real possibility in the current economic climate, that would be just awful. The management need to do something to get bums back on the seats and do it quickly. A change in coaching staff would be my first step as it's clear that many folks have just had enough of them, a couple of big name signings wouldn't be a bad idea either, better PR to promote our club, the list goes on. From what I hear the energy price issues are just about to hit the rink and could as you say really threaten its existence in its current form.
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Post by roryracer on Dec 26, 2022 13:37:24 GMT
Pete Russell is available would be a great change!
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Post by --G-- on Dec 26, 2022 19:53:20 GMT
Personally I really do like Todd. And I respect him for the dedication. But time is up. The club is dying and it seems the only realistic change would be the coaches. I’d send Todd up the stairs. Let him be a general manager and focus on the running of the club as an actual progressional outfit. Bring in a new face as head coach. Let them pick a roster and style. Send hutch packing. I would say since he came on board we have gotten worse.
It makes me sad, honestly, but I’m afraid it’s time for Todd to go.
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Post by FedUpFifer on Dec 26, 2022 20:53:41 GMT
he already is the gm and has done absolutely heehaw to improve the club in anyway wotsoever
crowds continue to drop week in week out, a gm should be working on getting crowds in and giving updates on how there doing that but that waste o space sits in bloody silense, he needs sacked and never come back
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Post by --G-- on Dec 26, 2022 21:11:30 GMT
he already is the gm and has done absolutely heehaw to improve the club in anyway wotsoever crowds continue to drop week in week out, a gm should be working on getting crowds in and giving updates on how there doing that but that waste o space sits in bloody silense, he needs sacked and never come back To be fair. You ever tried to do 2 jobs at once. Maybe he would be better without needing to be a bench coach. He is a fantastic ambassador and represents what fife can be very very well. Give him a shot at doing it full time.
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Post by boschman76 on Dec 26, 2022 21:29:54 GMT
He has been taking a easy pay cheque every month since we entered the league.any self respecting coach would have walked away years ago instead of staying and taking easy money and giving nothing back in return.and please spare me the it's not his fault it's tam Muir's fault if he wasn't happy with his contract every season no one is forcing him to stay or maybe he knows he wouldn't get another job in hockey
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Post by joestoyanovich on Dec 26, 2022 22:33:46 GMT
TD for GM not for me, putting someone who can't run the team in charge of the whole club is madness. Everything has a shelf life and TD has reached and surpassed his at Fife Flyers his very continuance at the club is getting to be toxic for some.
Fife Flyers are our club, they've been around a long time before TD came on the scene and will hopefully be around a long time after he's gone. Three seasons scrapping at the bottom of the league is enough, a change in coaches is urgently required to try to breathe some new life into our club.
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Post by boschman76 on Dec 26, 2022 22:42:07 GMT
Joe has he even had a winning season since we entered the league.he keeps getting rewarded for failure that wouldn't happen to any other coach in a professional team sport with his record
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Post by tackleberry on Dec 26, 2022 23:29:47 GMT
The club needs changes from top to bottom but I don’t see that happening. The lack of professionalism throughout the whole organisation is there for everyone to see and I think a lot of the fans have become disillusioned with the club and the ‘great night out‘ as a result. I really don’t see a viable future for the Flyers in the top tier of British ice hockey anymore, such a shame.
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Post by --G-- on Dec 26, 2022 23:36:34 GMT
Joe has he even had a winning season since we entered the league.he keeps getting rewarded for failure that wouldn't happen to any other coach in a professional team sport with his record Yes. He has had winning seasons (assume you mean the team wins more than they lose) 13-14 till around 18-19 were actually acceptable. But since the covid shorted season it’s been abysmal.
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