cl24
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Post by cl24 on Aug 5, 2015 10:10:28 GMT
I respect your comment but why not bring them up with the club if you feel so strongly about this? Not much point when they'll ignore your emails, ignore your tweets, and delete any facebook comments that go against what they think. It doesn't give the impression that they are welcoming advice or feedback from fans.
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Post by allan1745 on Aug 5, 2015 10:17:40 GMT
I respect your comment but why not bring them up with the club if you feel so strongly about this? Not much point when they'll ignore your emails, ignore your tweets, and delete any facebook comments that go against what they think. It doesn't give the impression that they are welcoming advice or feedback from fans. You don't seriously expect and answer on Twitter or Facebook. Write to the club, if you write a constructive e-mail or letter you will get a response.
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Post by waterboy on Aug 5, 2015 10:24:23 GMT
Not much point when they'll ignore your emails, ignore your tweets, and delete any facebook comments that go against what they think. It doesn't give the impression that they are welcoming advice or feedback from fans. You don't seriously expect and answer on Twitter or Facebook. Write to the club, if you write a constructive e-mail or letter you will get a response. Sorry Allan but that comment alone shows just how out of touch the Flyers are with social media.
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cl24
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Post by cl24 on Aug 5, 2015 10:33:38 GMT
Not much point when they'll ignore your emails, ignore your tweets, and delete any facebook comments that go against what they think. It doesn't give the impression that they are welcoming advice or feedback from fans. You don't seriously expect and answer on Twitter or Facebook. Write to the club, if you write a constructive e-mail or letter you will get a response. Not to feedback, no. I mean in general. It's worrying when they can't answer simple questions from fans on social media. They'll get a mention on Facebook when they don't pay their season ticket money though, that's fine. Do the club seriously expect an answer from people on Twitter or Facebook?
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Post by allan1745 on Aug 5, 2015 10:47:52 GMT
You don't seriously expect and answer on Twitter or Facebook. Write to the club, if you write a constructive e-mail or letter you will get a response. Sorry Allan but that comment alone shows just how out of touch the Flyers are with social media. Would you raise a complaint on Twitter or Facebook and expect a reply? Maybe it's me that's out of touch as I don't handle the Social Media (maybe it's just as well) :-) I just thought, and yes, maybe I'm old fashioned, that if you wrote in to the club it would be a more personal way to deal with it.
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Post by ckbell63 on Aug 5, 2015 10:54:21 GMT
I appreciate you responding Allan. The owners are successful business people but seem to be not up to date with the times. That may be their downfall and it needs to be a priority for the club.
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Post by allan1745 on Aug 5, 2015 11:05:11 GMT
I appreciate you responding Allan. The owners are successful business people but seem to be not up to date with the times. That may be their downfall and it needs to be a priority for the club. I have a Facebook and Twitter account but, paticularly Twitter, am no so good on it. I'm okay on Facebook - it's easy. I guess I'm just an auld fart That's probably why I don't get near the club ones
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Post by jambitink on Aug 5, 2015 11:07:28 GMT
Letting their prospects join their rivals, - I can't comment on this Continuing to ice, Scoon for the past 4 seasons. It was obvious from day one he isn’t cut out for this league. It’s so bad he has become a laughing stock with his own fans. - That is your opinion, as is your right, and the coaches obviously have another opinion, as is their right. However that doesn't make the club unprofessionalNaming people who haven’t paid their season ticket money on fb. - I can't comment on this The embarrassment of their social media posts in general. - Again - it is an opinion and one that you are entitled toThe age old argument of players drinking before games. - HeresayThe attitude of people in their front office. - Not Flyers' staff in the front officeThe general match night experience run by that clown in the DJ box. It would be easier to have a conversation in a nightclub than it is when the music is on during breaks in play. Even Dundee and Edinburgh are streets ahead of the Flyers for game night experience. - Again it is your opinion. I have had comments from sponsors complimenting the DJ and the match night entertainmentThe quality of the press releases and the cringe worthy puns. - Again it is your opinionThere is a lot of positive changes over the past few seasons but there is still a long way to go before they catch up with other teams in terms of professionalism. I respect your comment but why not bring them up with the club if you feel so strongly about this? Thanks for the reply Allan. I agree that all of my points are a matter of opinion. Some will agree and and some wont. That's life. It's not something I fell that strongly about that I would get in contact with the Club. My only involvement in the club is that I attend games and these are my views as an outsider.
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Post by allan1745 on Aug 5, 2015 11:17:27 GMT
And I respect these views jambitink
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Post by waterboy on Aug 5, 2015 11:42:48 GMT
Sorry Allan but that comment alone shows just how out of touch the Flyers are with social media. Would you raise a complaint on Twitter or Facebook and expect a reply? Maybe it's me that's out of touch as I don't handle the Social Media (maybe it's just as well) :-) I just thought, and yes, maybe I'm old fashioned, that if you wrote in to the club it would be a more personal way to deal with it. Yes I would and yes why shouldn't it get an answer, If however it was more of a personal question I would contact via PM or as you say via Email. Generations below me only speak to each other via social media!! I wont pretend to be fully up to date with all things social media but when the club or at least people representing the club are not getting back to people on any format be it twitter facebook etc it will be seen negatively. Deleting comments on Facebook again it comes across very poorly. Others have posted on the forum who work with social media everyday, why not take them up on their offer to help. Actually no not to help why would the club not invest in this side of the business rather than relying on folk doing it in their spare time (be professional ) Is writing to the club a way to make contact yes off course but in todays world it rarely happens like that anymore, I run a brewery and get contacted daily via facebook, twitter, linked in etc and use them to establish business contacts and opportunities etc. Its becoming the normal way to do business. The way this off season has been handled with regards to interactions with the fanbase have produced a very negative outlook from a large amount of fans across all social media platforms. This comes on the back of one of the most frustrating seasons we have had for a while but instead of working on keeping fans informed and building momentum towards the new season. The clubs approach comes across as just not caring or just taking the stance that it will all blow over and fans will turn up anyway come September. Flyers TV for example it was great with Ross but since he has moved on it has fell away badly. Look at the stuff the west coast lot are doing. It makes our efforts look awful. We actually can get interviews with some of our new guys from other outlets (Slapshot Scotland for one) and have other clubs podcasts interviewing Todd yet Flyers have done none of this during the off season. Regular updates from the coaching staff as we announced players would have been good not every week but at least 1 or 2 a month would have made a big difference. Clear plans heading into the season regarding what went wrong last season our playing style for the coming season,pre season + training camps, shirt launch, meet the players, rink improvments. The opportunities are there but just never seem to get taken. Thanks for being on the forum and chipping in Allan it is appreciated and I do realise se that most of my mad ramblings don't lie at your door so to speak.
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Post by amazepux on Aug 5, 2015 11:48:47 GMT
I appreciate you responding Allan. The owners are successful business people but seem to be not up to date with the times. That may be their downfall and it needs to be a priority for the club. i dont think being 'behind the times' is always a negative..indeed many 'forward thinking' clubs have bankrupt themselves trying to keep up with the 'Jones'. Social Media may be to some 'the Holy Grail' of communication thesedays however it is an impersonal approach. Some folk seem to want us tobe a free spending club at any expense. Leave the running of the club to the experts whove been there done it and watched others bugger it up!
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Post by jambitink on Aug 5, 2015 11:54:46 GMT
I appreciate you responding Allan. The owners are successful business people but seem to be not up to date with the times. That may be their downfall and it needs to be a priority for the club. i dont think being 'behind the times' is always a negative..indeed many 'forward thinking' clubs have bankrupt themselves trying to keep up with the 'Jones'. Social Media may be to some 'the Holy Grail' of communication thesedays however it is an impersonal approach. Some folk seem to want us tobe a free spending club at any expense. Leave the running of the club to the experts whove been there done it and watched others bugger it up! The beauty of social media is that it is FREE publicity if done correctly.
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Post by finchy on Aug 5, 2015 12:02:20 GMT
I appreciate you responding Allan. The owners are successful business people but seem to be not up to date with the times. That may be their downfall and it needs to be a priority for the club. i dont think being 'behind the times' is always a negative..indeed many 'forward thinking' clubs have bankrupt themselves trying to keep up with the 'Jones'. Social Media may be to some 'the Holy Grail' of communication thesedays however it is an impersonal approach. Some folk seem to want us tobe a free spending club at any expense. Leave the running of the club to the experts whove been there done it and watched others bugger it up! You got any examples of the club excelling at the 'personal approach' then? Serious question! Have you missed the stuff about people withdrawing season ticket money (me and a few friends included) because they were treated so shabbily? I also have to confess I was completely unaware that investing in a club twitter and facebook account was such an expensive business.... Where does 'free spending' come into all of this? People are basically saying you can EASILY improve the potential of the club (thus creating more income, not losing it!!) by doing some incredibly simple things properly, and perhaps not just acceptong that the 'in with the bricks' inner clique are fit for purpose. If you think just because we've been here a long time that we need to sit back and accept those that run the club are 'experts' and cant improve then I think that is ridiculous, and a forum is exactly where these things should be debated!! Why do you think the Directors now employ Allan and Kirsty Longmuir? It's because they require time and 'expertise' that they dont have themselves. They just need to look at other areas they clearly dont think are important. If you think social media isnt important in 2015 you are misjudging things badly.
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Post by chez86 on Aug 5, 2015 13:00:16 GMT
Sorry to butt in on your thread however just wish to point out that even if you go down the official route of emailing the club, expecting it to get passed on to the directors or at the very least, a paid member of Flyers staff, you will be very disappointed to find our response is signed as coming from Jack Wishart when in fact he has no knowledge of receiving the email and did not respond. As far as i am aware, it is the same person(s) replying to emails that write the awful posts on social media
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Post by jimmer on Aug 5, 2015 17:06:53 GMT
Hi Guys.. first post, blaze fan here in peace As has already been mentioned we have very good and loyal sponsors in coventry, one example of this is Chuck Weber's salary hasn't affected the playing budget for this year as apparently the sponsors are paying his wages.
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