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Post by bobdee on Dec 5, 2018 15:30:04 GMT
The product has to be improved. Getting a better transition would be a starter, with a good balance pf players.
Equally, when the Flyers only turn up for a period a game, (as they have been doing) the punters don't get a two thirds refund. There has to be value for money.
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Dec 5, 2018 16:47:19 GMT
The product has to be improved. Getting a better transition would be a starter, with a good balance pf players. Equally, when the Flyers only turn up for a period a game, (as they have been doing) the punters don't get a two thirds refund. There has to be value for money. Without phisical play hits and fights...you basically have groups of men skating up and down the rink with a shot on goal now and again. Ice hockey in Fife was built on watching two teams trying to be tougher as well as more skillful than the other...this new snowflake style of hockey is not going down well with the crowds..and not just Fife. |
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Post by ronniemac on Dec 5, 2018 17:35:46 GMT
Totally agree with you DL with the above statement and your thoughts on Halas, its not Tiddly Winks we are watching.
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Post by waterboy on Dec 8, 2018 12:29:01 GMT
The product has to be improved. Getting a better transition would be a starter, with a good balance pf players. Equally, when the Flyers only turn up for a period a game, (as they have been doing) the punters don't get a two thirds refund. There has to be value for money. Without phisical play hits and fights...you basically have groups of men skating up and down the rink with a shot on goal now and again. Ice hockey in Fife was built on watching two teams trying to be tougher as well as more skillful than the other...this new snowflake style of hockey is not going down well with the crowds..and not just Fife. That sums it up perfectly for me. Been bored watching hockey for the last few seasons and this one has just pushed me over the edge, I haven't been for the last few homes games as simply cant be bothered watching bland boring hockey (and paying through the nose for it). For me watching a club that has such history with local players through the decades to see what they have become a side with one fifer on the ice (for a few shifts at best) there is a real lack of identity that fans can attach themselves to. Imports come and go some are amazing but these days they only stay for a few season at most so the homegrown guys should be the straw that stirs the drink. We have penny pinched and invested nothing in that side of our team and the club are worse off for it. Cochrane Smith and Robertson can fill that gap but they never will while they are sitting on their butts watching imports skate about weekend after weekend, Their mates are playing down south in other leagues and enjoying themselves. Wont be long before they look to follow suit. Players want to play and at that age they need to be on the ice. |
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Post by tartanflyer0198 on Dec 8, 2018 23:51:30 GMT
Without phisical play hits and fights...you basically have groups of men skating up and down the rink with a shot on goal now and again. Ice hockey in Fife was built on watching two teams trying to be tougher as well as more skillful than the other...this new snowflake style of hockey is not going down well with the crowds..and not just Fife. That sums it up perfectly for me. Been bored watching hockey for the last few seasons and this one has just pushed me over the edge, I haven't been for the last few homes games as simply cant be bothered watching bland boring hockey (and paying through the nose for it). For me watching a club that has such history with local players through the decades to see what they have become a side with one fifer on the ice (for a few shifts at best) there is a real lack of identity that fans can attach themselves to. Imports come and go some are amazing but these days they only stay for a few season at most so the homegrown guys should be the straw that stirs the drink. We have penny pinched and invested nothing in that side of our team and the club are worse off for it. Cochrane Smith and Robertson can fill that gap but they never will while they are sitting on their butts watching imports skate about weekend after weekend, Their mates are playing down south in other leagues and enjoying themselves. Wont be long before they look to follow suit. Players want to play and at that age they need to be on the ice. Wake up guys. The rough & tumble, out and out fighting and hard hitting days of hockey are over. There is too much at stake with players health and welfare being at the forefront of many leagues awareness, as it should be. Yes.. the excitement factor may be down from years past as it isn’t the same physical type of hockey as fans appear to be dying to see on the daily, but it’s the new fast style and flair of the game that you should want to come out to watch and support. It’s happening in all the leagues in the world and is shown by nhl punishing fighting types consistently and teams across Europe and NA not even signing this type of player anymore. Football isn’t a sport of physicality and it’s known as the beautiful game, why does hockey have to be a game of kill or be killed or at the minimum be a game of hit or be weak in order to be enjoyable to fans here. Enjoy the game, and the product on the ice in this day and age, and get over the glory days of brutality and fighting on the ice on the regular, the game has moved on and maybe we should too. Within these new parameters that are very much apparent through the league, our team here in Fife are a dynamic bunch that can produce results for us in the table. So long as they are competing, they deserve support and if you don’t like the new league style, quit your bleating and support something else. This forum is repetitive and exhausted in its arguments, and i sincerely hope for some new discussions about the team in the future. |
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Post by teamshaky on Dec 9, 2018 0:39:48 GMT
The new fast style and flair, what team are you watching it certainly not flyers, it's more a case of dump chase, shoot and hope for a deflection or rebound type hockey. There no tic tac toe hockey, there no hitting or fighting, it's boring hockey. We sign some great players season after season, yet always play like the same team, we need a change of direction to bring the crowds back.
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Post by jeeves on Dec 9, 2018 2:52:02 GMT
That sums it up perfectly for me. Been bored watching hockey for the last few seasons and this one has just pushed me over the edge, I haven't been for the last few homes games as simply cant be bothered watching bland boring hockey (and paying through the nose for it). For me watching a club that has such history with local players through the decades to see what they have become a side with one fifer on the ice (for a few shifts at best) there is a real lack of identity that fans can attach themselves to. Imports come and go some are amazing but these days they only stay for a few season at most so the homegrown guys should be the straw that stirs the drink. We have penny pinched and invested nothing in that side of our team and the club are worse off for it. Cochrane Smith and Robertson can fill that gap but they never will while they are sitting on their butts watching imports skate about weekend after weekend, Their mates are playing down south in other leagues and enjoying themselves. Wont be long before they look to follow suit. Players want to play and at that age they need to be on the ice. Wake up guys. The rough & tumble, out and out fighting and hard hitting days of hockey are over. There is too much at stake with players health and welfare being at the forefront of many leagues awareness, as it should be. Yes.. the excitement factor may be down from years past as it isn’t the same physical type of hockey as fans appear to be dying to see on the daily, but it’s the new fast style and flair of the game that you should want to come out to watch and support. It’s happening in all the leagues in the world and is shown by nhl punishing fighting types consistently and teams across Europe and NA not even signing this type of player anymore. Football isn’t a sport of physicality and it’s known as the beautiful game, why does hockey have to be a game of kill or be killed or at the minimum be a game of hit or be weak in order to be enjoyable to fans here. Enjoy the game, and the product on the ice in this day and age, and get over the glory days of brutality and fighting on the ice on the regular, the game has moved on and maybe we should too. Within these new parameters that are very much apparent through the league, our team here in Fife are a dynamic bunch that can produce results for us in the table. So long as they are competing, they deserve support and if you don’t like the new league style, quit your bleating and support something else. This forum is repetitive and exhausted in its arguments, and i sincerely hope for some new discussions about the team in the future. An excellent post. |
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Post by swarfiga on Dec 9, 2018 7:00:02 GMT
That sums it up perfectly for me. Been bored watching hockey for the last few seasons and this one has just pushed me over the edge, I haven't been for the last few homes games as simply cant be bothered watching bland boring hockey (and paying through the nose for it). For me watching a club that has such history with local players through the decades to see what they have become a side with one fifer on the ice (for a few shifts at best) there is a real lack of identity that fans can attach themselves to. Imports come and go some are amazing but these days they only stay for a few season at most so the homegrown guys should be the straw that stirs the drink. We have penny pinched and invested nothing in that side of our team and the club are worse off for it. Cochrane Smith and Robertson can fill that gap but they never will while they are sitting on their butts watching imports skate about weekend after weekend, Their mates are playing down south in other leagues and enjoying themselves. Wont be long before they look to follow suit. Players want to play and at that age they need to be on the ice. Wake up guys. The rough & tumble, out and out fighting and hard hitting days of hockey are over. There is too much at stake with players health and welfare being at the forefront of many leagues awareness, as it should be. Yes.. the excitement factor may be down from years past as it isn’t the same physical type of hockey as fans appear to be dying to see on the daily, but it’s the new fast style and flair of the game that you should want to come out to watch and support. It’s happening in all the leagues in the world and is shown by nhl punishing fighting types consistently and teams across Europe and NA not even signing this type of player anymore. Football isn’t a sport of physicality and it’s known as the beautiful game, why does hockey have to be a game of kill or be killed or at the minimum be a game of hit or be weak in order to be enjoyable to fans here. Enjoy the game, and the product on the ice in this day and age, and get over the glory days of brutality and fighting on the ice on the regular, the game has moved on and maybe we should too. Within these new parameters that are very much apparent through the league, our team here in Fife are a dynamic bunch that can produce results for us in the table. So long as they are competing, they deserve support and if you don’t like the new league style, quit your bleating and support something else. This forum is repetitive and exhausted in its arguments, and i sincerely hope for some new discussions about the team in the future. I think there’s about 600 people taking your advise and supporting something else every week, as they’re certainly not at the flyers anymore. |
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Post by zamboni on Dec 9, 2018 7:48:33 GMT
The first period last night plenty hits was entertaining enough
Less fans will mean less team next season
The club has moved forward we have better brits
The game has changed hockey will always win
No place for goonery of past
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Dec 9, 2018 8:39:15 GMT
That sums it up perfectly for me. Been bored watching hockey for the last few seasons and this one has just pushed me over the edge, I haven't been for the last few homes games as simply cant be bothered watching bland boring hockey (and paying through the nose for it). For me watching a club that has such history with local players through the decades to see what they have become a side with one fifer on the ice (for a few shifts at best) there is a real lack of identity that fans can attach themselves to. Imports come and go some are amazing but these days they only stay for a few season at most so the homegrown guys should be the straw that stirs the drink. We have penny pinched and invested nothing in that side of our team and the club are worse off for it. Cochrane Smith and Robertson can fill that gap but they never will while they are sitting on their butts watching imports skate about weekend after weekend, Their mates are playing down south in other leagues and enjoying themselves. Wont be long before they look to follow suit. Players want to play and at that age they need to be on the ice. Wake up guys. The rough & tumble, out and out fighting and hard hitting days of hockey are over. There is too much at stake with players health and welfare being at the forefront of many leagues awareness, as it should be. Yes.. the excitement factor may be down from years past as it isn’t the same physical type of hockey as fans appear to be dying to see on the daily, but it’s the new fast style and flair of the game that you should want to come out to watch and support. It’s happening in all the leagues in the world and is shown by nhl punishing fighting types consistently and teams across Europe and NA not even signing this type of player anymore. Football isn’t a sport of physicality and it’s known as the beautiful game, why does hockey have to be a game of kill or be killed or at the minimum be a game of hit or be weak in order to be enjoyable to fans here. Enjoy the game, and the product on the ice in this day and age, and get over the glory days of brutality and fighting on the ice on the regular, the game has moved on and maybe we should too. Within these new parameters that are very much apparent through the league, our team here in Fife are a dynamic bunch that can produce results for us in the table. So long as they are competing, they deserve support and if you don’t like the new league style, quit your bleating and support something else. This forum is repetitive and exhausted in its arguments, and i sincerely hope for some new discussions about the team in the future. Enjoy your life on Planet Janet. If this is the new fast exciting style you are creaming about...then look at the empty spaces...crowds like that will see the end of the flyers at top level. |
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Post by swarfiga on Dec 9, 2018 9:02:28 GMT
The first period last night plenty hits was entertaining enough Less fans will mean less team next season The club has moved forward we have better brits The game has changed hockey will always win No place for goonery of past There was 2/3 max. Your opinion while valid and I’m not disputing it is out weighed by the many voting with their feet. The game won’t win if the crowds half and that’s the way it’s headed. For flyers to get 2000 in the building they need physical players, that’s now proven. |
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Post by boschman76 on Dec 9, 2018 9:16:57 GMT
You need characters guys who excite you either through being physical or being that bit different skill wise bringing in the same type of player becomes bland and boring. Going back in time to when doug Smail was at the Fia you would be excited to go to the game just watch him play and alot off nights he was worth the entrance fee on his own we don't seem to have any player like that now. And any nhl game you watch now you still get the big hits and you still get the fights OK now they aren't so orchestrated as they were maybe five or six years ago but you still get them
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Post by tartanflyer0198 on Dec 9, 2018 9:33:57 GMT
Wake up guys. The rough & tumble, out and out fighting and hard hitting days of hockey are over. There is too much at stake with players health and welfare being at the forefront of many leagues awareness, as it should be. Yes.. the excitement factor may be down from years past as it isn’t the same physical type of hockey as fans appear to be dying to see on the daily, but it’s the new fast style and flair of the game that you should want to come out to watch and support. It’s happening in all the leagues in the world and is shown by nhl punishing fighting types consistently and teams across Europe and NA not even signing this type of player anymore. Football isn’t a sport of physicality and it’s known as the beautiful game, why does hockey have to be a game of kill or be killed or at the minimum be a game of hit or be weak in order to be enjoyable to fans here. Enjoy the game, and the product on the ice in this day and age, and get over the glory days of brutality and fighting on the ice on the regular, the game has moved on and maybe we should too. Within these new parameters that are very much apparent through the league, our team here in Fife are a dynamic bunch that can produce results for us in the table. So long as they are competing, they deserve support and if you don’t like the new league style, quit your bleating and support something else. This forum is repetitive and exhausted in its arguments, and i sincerely hope for some new discussions about the team in the future. Enjoy your life on Planet Janet. If this is the new fast exciting style you are creaming about...then look at the empty spaces...crowds like that will see the end of the flyers at top level. Dirty Lyle If you read my post correctly, am talking about this style and flair of the game as a whole, that’s how it is now rather than the intensely physical style of the past. Am not saying flyers have this necessarily, but am saying this is the way the game is now. I personally don’t think flyers have the balance quite right this season but they are playing this skill based way rather than the fighting and physical route, as most teams now do. They are only heading more down this path and we could support that rather than bash on about the good ol days. Hockey’s not the same anymore, so evolve with it. |
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Post by Dirty Lyle on Dec 9, 2018 9:59:59 GMT
Enjoy your life on Planet Janet. If this is the new fast exciting style you are creaming about...then look at the empty spaces...crowds like that will see the end of the flyers at top level. Dirty Lyle If you read my post correctly, am talking about this style and flair of the game as a whole, that’s how it is now rather than the intensely physical style of the past. Am not saying flyers have this necessarily, but am saying this is the way the game is now. I personally don’t think flyers have the balance quite right this season but they are playing this skill based way rather than the fighting and physical route, as most teams now do. They are only heading more down this path and we could support that rather than bash on about the good ol days. Hockey’s not the same anymore, so evolve with it. I accept the way it is now and I would pay to watch physical skilled players like the goat and schaeber any day of the week, but look at the crowds is all I'm saying, this non contact style is not attractive to the crowds, not just our fans but throughout the league where attendance is down...you mentioned the NHL ...the fans there were now calling it the No Hits League..so much so that the executive put out a directive to the referees to not call it as tight..all physical contact is being taken out of the game by refereeing so tight and players fear of being banned and fined for borderline hits. Last night's game was a win..by was boring to the extreme, the crowd for large periods were talking amongst themselves or on their phones..the hockey forum has 3 posts (all by the same guy) about our game, the lowest post count of all elite games. Hockey is dying in Fife ..it's very little to do with the match night experience and everything to do with the boring product on the ice. Most fans have evolved..I loved Heineken league..into the BNL and even the elite, but recently the game has just lost its appeal, and as someone has said over 600 home fans appear to have agreed with me. We either realise this and have more Gautier and less Finnuci or there will be no more elite flyers in the near future. |
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Post by watcher on Dec 9, 2018 12:02:04 GMT
Agree that for a large part last nights game was on the boring side and very scrappy. However the third goal, scored by Buesa, was a thing of beauty and worth the admission fee. Fast accurate passing that you just knew was going to lead to something. If they can play like this why is it so seldom we see it during games?
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